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		<title>By: linux scripts - StartTags.com</title>
		<link>http://plugable.com/2010/01/20/linux-usb-multiseat-audio-support/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>linux scripts - StartTags.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rest 1-year or 3-year free updates, depending on the license you purchase No visible link to us ...Linux USB multiseat audio support &#124; PlugableHere&#039;s how to add audio support on top of the previous instructions for getting USB multiseat [...]

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		<title>By: Bernie Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - another question.  In terms of not using the DVI/VGA  output of the UD-160-A - is that because you&#039;re thinking about using PCIe graphics cards?

You may want to get a unit and check out the performance of USB graphics on Linux first (with the udlfb driver). It still has the fundamental limitations of the 480Mbs USB 2.0 bus, but it&#039;s surprisingly snappy -- even more so than Windows.

And the plug-and-play advantages of USB for configuring/mantaining a multiseat configuration are pretty huge.

That said, it will only become really a big deal once this support is in the distros, and adding a terminal involves *no* configuration -- and we&#039;re not there yet.

Best wishes,
Bernie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8211; another question.  In terms of not using the DVI/VGA  output of the UD-160-A &#8211; is that because you&#8217;re thinking about using PCIe graphics cards?</p>
<p>You may want to get a unit and check out the performance of USB graphics on Linux first (with the udlfb driver). It still has the fundamental limitations of the 480Mbs USB 2.0 bus, but it&#8217;s surprisingly snappy &#8212; even more so than Windows.</p>
<p>And the plug-and-play advantages of USB for configuring/mantaining a multiseat configuration are pretty huge.</p>
<p>That said, it will only become really a big deal once this support is in the distros, and adding a terminal involves *no* configuration &#8212; and we&#8217;re not there yet.</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Bernie</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Thompson</title>
		<link>http://plugable.com/2010/01/20/linux-usb-multiseat-audio-support/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dagg,

The sound portion should be portable to many USB audio devices that have Linux support, with a few modifications of the scripts.  For the rest, the scripts here show everything -- it&#039;s currently designed around gnome and X, but definitely can do anything (that ultimately can sit on a kernel framebuffer).

What we&#039;ve done with the UD-160-A that&#039;s valuable is 1) Make sure all the components have underlying open source drivers 2) Have scripts that support its exact hardware configuration.

Because this is the terminal market, we&#039;re always looking at ways to hit lower price points. What&#039;s your &quot;magic pricepoint&quot; where a purchase here is an easy decision?  We&#039;re going to be launching a &quot;basic&quot; dock/terminal in the coming months to shave a little cost off ...

Best wishes,
Bernie

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dagg,</p>
<p>The sound portion should be portable to many USB audio devices that have Linux support, with a few modifications of the scripts.  For the rest, the scripts here show everything &#8212; it&#8217;s currently designed around gnome and X, but definitely can do anything (that ultimately can sit on a kernel framebuffer).</p>
<p>What we&#8217;ve done with the UD-160-A that&#8217;s valuable is 1) Make sure all the components have underlying open source drivers 2) Have scripts that support its exact hardware configuration.</p>
<p>Because this is the terminal market, we&#8217;re always looking at ways to hit lower price points. What&#8217;s your &#8220;magic pricepoint&#8221; where a purchase here is an easy decision?  We&#8217;re going to be launching a &#8220;basic&#8221; dock/terminal in the coming months to shave a little cost off &#8230;</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Bernie</p>
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		<title>By: dagg</title>
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		<dc:creator>dagg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello, I&#039;m in the process of researching to build a powerful multiseat.
as I don&#039;t use gnome, I&#039;ve wanted to know how portable is your code in regarding to the sound to other DEs? does it use alsa-usb-audio? am I right in assuming that the code splits the sound by users?
how does the code launches the multiple xserver sessions? does it uses nested xservers?
the reason I&#039;m asking is because I&#039;m not planning to use the plugable dock station because it&#039;s price and the fact that I&#039;m not going to use the dvi output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, I&#8217;m in the process of researching to build a powerful multiseat.<br />
as I don&#8217;t use gnome, I&#8217;ve wanted to know how portable is your code in regarding to the sound to other DEs? does it use alsa-usb-audio? am I right in assuming that the code splits the sound by users?<br />
how does the code launches the multiple xserver sessions? does it uses nested xservers?<br />
the reason I&#8217;m asking is because I&#8217;m not planning to use the plugable dock station because it&#8217;s price and the fact that I&#8217;m not going to use the dvi output.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these notes, and the original work on this, Alexander! On the differences in udev rules - I assume (hope?) these will normalize with future versions of the distros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these notes, and the original work on this, Alexander! On the differences in udev rules &#8211; I assume (hope?) these will normalize with future versions of the distros.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Todorov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Todorov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth mentioning that for good audio experience there are some more things to try:

1) On some distros like RHEL and derived it is necessary to add the users to the audio auxiliary group

2) All sound aware applications need to be configured to use &quot;ALSA Default&quot; device so that they can pick up the device specified by ALSA_CARD. This is usually true for most applications but may not be true if you&#039;re converting a previously used desktop machine to a multi-seat terminal.

3) Extra care must be taken when manipulating sound settings with application like system-config-soundcard, gnome-volume-control or alsamixer for example. Those applications are not multi-user aware, no access control is in place and if the user doesn&#039;t know which is his SEAT_ID they may for example mute the sound for another seat by mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth mentioning that for good audio experience there are some more things to try:</p>
<p>1) On some distros like RHEL and derived it is necessary to add the users to the audio auxiliary group</p>
<p>2) All sound aware applications need to be configured to use &#8220;ALSA Default&#8221; device so that they can pick up the device specified by ALSA_CARD. This is usually true for most applications but may not be true if you&#8217;re converting a previously used desktop machine to a multi-seat terminal.</p>
<p>3) Extra care must be taken when manipulating sound settings with application like system-config-soundcard, gnome-volume-control or alsamixer for example. Those applications are not multi-user aware, no access control is in place and if the user doesn&#8217;t know which is his SEAT_ID they may for example mute the sound for another seat by mistake.</p>
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